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Federal Court Migration Users' Group Meeting - NSW - Minutes

6 May 2004

[For attendees and apologies see below ]

1. Welcome

Emmett J welcomed participants to the meeting, noted the Attorney-General's announcement earlier in the day of the appointment of 8 new Federal Magistrates (6 in Sydney) and referred to the Federal Court's proposal to introduce provision in the Rules for short form bills in migration matters.

•  Adjournments

There was discussion of the difficulties posed by applications for adjournment, particularly by unrepresented applicants, made late, informally and with little evidence and the apparent perception that adjournments will be granted. There was discussion about whether the Rules should provide for the giving of notice in a particular way and that at directions conducted by Registrars it is made clear that adjournments will only be granted for good reason, however there was a consensus view that this is perceived by practitioners to be a problem but that no procedure is likely to improve the situation. Emmett J agreed to report to the Federal Court judges some discontent by the profession at the way in which the applications for adjournment in these cases are dealt with. There was discussion of difficulties which flowed if a legal practitioner is instructed shortly before a hearing or if instructions are withdrawn shortly before the hearing.

3. Appeals from Interlocutory Judgment

It was suggested that on a number of occasions notices of appeal from interlocutory dismissals have been accepted and there was discussion on the difficulties that Registry staff face when presented with such a document in being able to identify whether the dismissal is interlocutory or final was discussed. It was suggested that orders could include a reference to the basis of the dismissal being interlocutory where this is the case. It was agreed that Federal Magistrates would try to ensure an appropriate indication is included in interlocutory dismissal orders. There was discussion about the current Registry procedures and the way in which judicial officers would deal with issues of extension of time and leave and possible delays.

4. Standard Short Minutes

A draft of possible short minutes for use in the Federal Magistrates Court was distributed and discussed. The suggestions included use of "an amended application" instead of "any amended application" in paragraph 3, where paragraphs 3 and 8 were intimidating to applicants, that the intended paragraph 8 might be clearer if worded as "no notice of motion directed to no reasonable course of action is to be filed until ..", whether it might be better to issue the document as a notice to practitioners rather than as short minutes of order and whether it might be preferable to have the document translated into common languages. There was consensus that the short minutes are worth trying for a trial period.

5. Discontinuance

There was discussion about the difficulties for respondents where an applicant discontinues and does not serve a copy of the notice of discontinuance on the Minister's solicitors. To assist it was agreed that the Registry would commence providing copies of notice of discontinuance filed to the Minister's representatives where the applicant is unrepresented.

6. Direct Access Briefs

There was discussion about the progress of amendment to the Rules in regard to "solicitor on the record" and notice of address for service to overcome the difficulties encountered by barristers who accept a direct access brief.

7. Legal Advice Scheme

There was discussion about the possible "double dipping" in participation by some applicants in the RRT Legal Advice Scheme. It was agreed that the Court would have further discussions with the Department of Immigration and Multicultural Affairs about developing appropriate rules for the administration of the scheme to avoid possible abuses.

8. Unrepresented Applicants

Chris Levingston offered to assist the Court and unrepresented applicants in the non-compliance list by providing pro-bono a "duty solicitor" type arrangement. He said that he would write to the Court to set out the precise details. He was thanked for this very generous offer.

9. The next meeting

It was agreed that the next Migration User's Group meeting be held at 4.45 pm on Thursday 5 August 2004.

The meeting closed at 5.45 pm.


Attendees

 

Attendees from the Federal Court of Australia

Justice Emmett (Chair)

Federal Magistrate Barnes

Federal Magistrate Driver

Federal Magistrate Raphael

John Mathieson (District Registrar)

Jennifer Hedge (Deputy District Registrar)

Tony Tesoriero (Deputy District Registrar)

Stephanie Kavallaris (Deputy District Registrar)

Attendees from profession:

  1. Althea Houlton, Sparke Helmore
  2. Andras Markus ,AGS
  3. Andrea Nesbitt, Sparke Helmore.
  4. Andrew Selim, Clayton Utz
  5. Angela Nanson, AGS
  6. Ben Cramer BDW
  7. Ben Zipser, Barrister, Selborne Chambers
  8. Bernadette Rayment, Sparke Helmore
  9. Christopher Levingston, Levingston Associates
  10. Ejaz Kahn, Ward Maxwell Solicitors
  11. H.J. Halligan, Sir James Martin Chambers
  12. Jennifer Bautista, Sparke Helmore
  13. John Atkin, Martin Place Chambers
  14. Judy Pownall, AGS
  15. Julia Day, Barrister, Wentworth Chambers
  16. Julian Gormly, Selborne Chambers
  17. Justin Smith, Selborne Chambers
  18. Kathleen Crawley, Clayton Utz
  19. Katie Bryant, Sparke Helmore
  20. Mark Campbell, Chalfont Chambers
  21. Michael McCrudden, Sparke Helmore
  22. Michelle Adamson, DIMIA
  23. Nicholas Poynder, Barrister, Frederick Jordan Chambers
  24. Patrick Reynolds,Clayton Utz
  25. Phillip Salem, Sparke Helmore
  26. Rebecca Leahy, Sparke Helmore
  27. Rohan White,, Sparke Helmore
  28. Sharon Burnett, Sparke Helmore
  29. Sharon Hanstein BDW
  30. Svetlana Zarucki, Clayton Utz
  31. Timothy Reilly, Barrister, Wardell Chambers
  32. Zac Chami, Clayton Utz

Apologies:

Stephen Scarlett, FM

Margaret Allars, Wentworth Chambers

Roger de Robillard, Barrister

 

 

 

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