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Federal Court and Supreme Court Admiralty Users' Group Meeting - NSW - Minutes
15 September 2003

Attendees: Tamberlin, Emmett, Palmer and Allsop JJ, Alexander Street SC, Greg Nell, John Levingston, Stuart Hetherington, David Stone, Martyn Hughes, James Neill, Douglas Coleman, John Mathieson, Philip Kellow, Lance Grant and Michael Whitehead.

Apologies: Sheller JA, Hely J and Ipp JA, Ian Davis, Peter McQueen, Robert Wilson and Robert Macfarlan QC.

Allsop J welcomed participants and outlined the process followed by the drafting committee in it preparation of the report to the meeting circulated on 1 September 2003. He emphasised that what was contained in the report was not intended to be a reflection of either Court's views or the views of Sydney practitioners and certainly not a reflection of anything which has been agreed, but simply a range of matters and issues which Sydney practitioners felt should be put forward for consideration.

Discussion about the report followed.

David Stone suggested that the proposed amended subrule 39(2) be reworded to something like "….which identifies sufficient short particulars of the claim and of any necessary facts….".

Stuart Hetherington suggested that a fundamental interpretative issue which needed to be clarified was whether "may" was mandatory or discretionary in relation to the issue of an arrest warrant (subrule 40(1)). After discussion it was suggested whilst this was a basal issue it was something that needed to be considered by the Statutory Rule Committee. It was suggested that reference to the need for clarification should be included in the report. Stuart Hetherington also suggested that the proposed draft Rule 54A and the commentary on it required further consideration in regard to who should be required to complete an affidavit on behalf of a corporation acting as a surety required.

There was a lengthy discussion in regard to the adequacy of guarantees from P & I and overseas and Australian financial institutions (other than banks) as an alternative to solicitor's undertakings. It was suggested that the report should be amended to reflect that a number of members of the Sydney profession felt such measures should be an alternative.

There was also discussion of the use of an overdraft account established by the arresting party with the Marshal being a signatory as an alternative to the proposal that the Marshal establish an overdraft. There was discussion of some of the practical difficulties associated with being able to establish such an overdraft but also the circumstances which might enable that facility to work satisfactorily.

Doug Coleman suggested that it might be more appropriate to provide in proposed subrule 70(2) that the default requirements be that a ship or other property be advertised for a period of six weeks and payment be required within one week.

Participants were invited to make any further comments on the report in the light of the discussions to Allsop or Palmer JJ before the end of the week to enable a revised version of the report to be prepared for presentation at the MLAANZ conference to be held in October 2003 in Brisbane.

 

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